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		<title>By: zale</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love Saarinen. And not because my uncle worked for bell labs. I honestly had no idea what his workplace looked like until much later. I guess Saarinen kind of grew on me, maybe because he does have that feel-- like no style. Sometimes I think I&#039;ve always enjoyed him but his name got in the way. I know, silly but I&#039;m still not sure how to pronounce his or really many many architects I love. Nevermind. His work is really becoming. I thoroughly enjoy his experiment. He does feel under appreciated though. It is a shame. He was outstanding in many ways, at least in my eyes. 51, and that&#039;s not fair!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Saarinen. And not because my uncle worked for bell labs. I honestly had no idea what his workplace looked like until much later. I guess Saarinen kind of grew on me, maybe because he does have that feel&#8211; like no style. Sometimes I think I&#8217;ve always enjoyed him but his name got in the way. I know, silly but I&#8217;m still not sure how to pronounce his or really many many architects I love. Nevermind. His work is really becoming. I thoroughly enjoy his experiment. He does feel under appreciated though. It is a shame. He was outstanding in many ways, at least in my eyes. 51, and that&#8217;s not fair!</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Crawford</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 03:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, I was being a bit of a devil&#039;s advocate. I often use that quote to egg on my students to challenge their pragmatic leanings, even when engaged in overtly pragmatic studio work. 

I understand completely the need to challenge people&#039;s assumptions about how they want to live. Consumer culture is one of those received wisdoms that requires challenging. Oddly, we are in a current condition where those cultural norms are producing great instabilities. Yet I can&#039;t help feel that a destabilizing element is our loss of connection to history. One of the things that often gives your work the power is the juxtaposition with the known. I think of scenes with conventional furniture, section cuts through familiar building sections, but with unfamiliar interventions. It puts us into a condition where we can question accepted norms. But there is also a kind of eternal return here: the original fabric, which someone figure out how to live in, is then occupied again with another vision of space (yours), which someone else now needs to figure out how to live in. It would be fun to figure out how to move in with my &quot;old furniture.&quot; We also have Borromini&#039;s St. Ivo, reached through an anonymous courtyard that seems to bulge and warp - made powerful by that contrast with the older fabric. Thus past and potential coexist in uneasy simultaneity. Saarinen gives us that quiet background into which a Berlin free zone can be inserted. 

There is a fascism embodied in the complete mega work. While I generally support the concept of the completed vision, I also have reservations. There is a totalitarianism - the Egyptian pyramid, a Greek temple, Zaha&#039;s work for BMW - a despotic control in service of dominant power regimes.Do we need that abuse to give us beauty? Are we doomed to versions of culture like, as Harry Lime (Orson Wells), in &quot;The Third Man&quot; says: &quot;in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.&quot; ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I was being a bit of a devil&#8217;s advocate. I often use that quote to egg on my students to challenge their pragmatic leanings, even when engaged in overtly pragmatic studio work. </p>
<p>I understand completely the need to challenge people&#8217;s assumptions about how they want to live. Consumer culture is one of those received wisdoms that requires challenging. Oddly, we are in a current condition where those cultural norms are producing great instabilities. Yet I can&#8217;t help feel that a destabilizing element is our loss of connection to history. One of the things that often gives your work the power is the juxtaposition with the known. I think of scenes with conventional furniture, section cuts through familiar building sections, but with unfamiliar interventions. It puts us into a condition where we can question accepted norms. But there is also a kind of eternal return here: the original fabric, which someone figure out how to live in, is then occupied again with another vision of space (yours), which someone else now needs to figure out how to live in. It would be fun to figure out how to move in with my &#8220;old furniture.&#8221; We also have Borromini&#8217;s St. Ivo, reached through an anonymous courtyard that seems to bulge and warp &#8211; made powerful by that contrast with the older fabric. Thus past and potential coexist in uneasy simultaneity. Saarinen gives us that quiet background into which a Berlin free zone can be inserted. </p>
<p>There is a fascism embodied in the complete mega work. While I generally support the concept of the completed vision, I also have reservations. There is a totalitarianism &#8211; the Egyptian pyramid, a Greek temple, Zaha&#8217;s work for BMW &#8211; a despotic control in service of dominant power regimes.Do we need that abuse to give us beauty? Are we doomed to versions of culture like, as Harry Lime (Orson Wells), in &#8220;The Third Man&#8221; says: &#8220;in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love &#8211; they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: lebbeuswoods</title>
		<link>http://lebbeuswoods.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/saarinens-last-experiment/#comment-5519</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caleb---you quote me correctly, thank you. What I had in mind is that architecture of imagination and conceptual depth should take the lead in shaping how we live---a controversial idea, for sure, because, for one thing, its sounds elitist. This is opposed to the idea that architecture should be built around how people ‘want’ to live. The semi-quotes refer to the reality that people want---or think they want---what they’ve been taught to want by their parents and other authority figures, and therefore want to reproduce conventions, norms, traditions that the authority figures were themselves taught to want. It’s a fine formula for sustaining social stability, but not as democratic as it may seem or pretend to be. So, I am shifting the responsibility to architects to break the old molds and offer people the chance to truly shape their own lives by designing spaces and networks of spaces that “you can’t move into with your old furniture.” In short, to offer people a real choice. Architecture is abstract enough to offer many interpretations of use, as you so rightly say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caleb&#8212;you quote me correctly, thank you. What I had in mind is that architecture of imagination and conceptual depth should take the lead in shaping how we live&#8212;a controversial idea, for sure, because, for one thing, its sounds elitist. This is opposed to the idea that architecture should be built around how people ‘want’ to live. The semi-quotes refer to the reality that people want&#8212;or think they want&#8212;what they’ve been taught to want by their parents and other authority figures, and therefore want to reproduce conventions, norms, traditions that the authority figures were themselves taught to want. It’s a fine formula for sustaining social stability, but not as democratic as it may seem or pretend to be. So, I am shifting the responsibility to architects to break the old molds and offer people the chance to truly shape their own lives by designing spaces and networks of spaces that “you can’t move into with your old furniture.” In short, to offer people a real choice. Architecture is abstract enough to offer many interpretations of use, as you so rightly say.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Crawford</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bruno Quesane, an historian of architecture, used to describe American balloon framing as democratic building. The plethora of elements privileges none - it is the non-hierarchical assembly that provides the resiliency. The Saarinen Bell Labs, from the photo of the hallway, has much of the same quality, a sense of equality. There is something filled with potential about such &quot;background buildings.&quot; SCI-Arc has always inhabited such spaces. The original buildings at Pratt were designed in such a way that should the school fail, it could be converted to a factory. The open and somewhat anonymous nature of the &quot;architecture&quot; at these schools provided a framework of possibility - the spaces weren&#039;t &quot;done,&quot; but in a perpetual state of &quot;becoming.&quot; This corresponds with Stewart Brand&#039;s thesis in &quot;How Buildings Learn.&quot; He feels that contemporary architects do not think about the long term, about how buildings adapt and change over time. I recall you once said something like &quot;we should design our buildings and then figure out how to live in them.&quot; Perhaps the Bell Labs offers us a glimpse of that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruno Quesane, an historian of architecture, used to describe American balloon framing as democratic building. The plethora of elements privileges none &#8211; it is the non-hierarchical assembly that provides the resiliency. The Saarinen Bell Labs, from the photo of the hallway, has much of the same quality, a sense of equality. There is something filled with potential about such &#8220;background buildings.&#8221; SCI-Arc has always inhabited such spaces. The original buildings at Pratt were designed in such a way that should the school fail, it could be converted to a factory. The open and somewhat anonymous nature of the &#8220;architecture&#8221; at these schools provided a framework of possibility &#8211; the spaces weren&#8217;t &#8220;done,&#8221; but in a perpetual state of &#8220;becoming.&#8221; This corresponds with Stewart Brand&#8217;s thesis in &#8220;How Buildings Learn.&#8221; He feels that contemporary architects do not think about the long term, about how buildings adapt and change over time. I recall you once said something like &#8220;we should design our buildings and then figure out how to live in them.&#8221; Perhaps the Bell Labs offers us a glimpse of that?</p>
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